Curse

Joerii · Jul 04, 2005, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Hey there fine people of the GW Guru forum !

A good gaming buddy of mine trusted me well enough to go ahead and sell the Sigil that he bought for only 40 k a few days agao. I found someone who was willing to pay me 60 k for it ( the price at the trader was 62k at the time ), and my buddy and I where going to share the profit. Finally our hours and hours of buying low and selling high where gonna pay off !

I closed the deal, and sold the Sigil for 60k, and ran back to my buddy to share the wealth, happy as a kid on chirstmas with my 20 k profit. I clicked on my iventore to admire the bling bling, and guess what ? No bling bling.

I checked the chatlog , and found out what happened. The guy stole our sigil by changing the 60k to 60 GOLD a split second before i clicked accept. So fast that i didn't even notice until he logged off.

Do you guys know if there is ANY way i can get justice ? The worst part is, that the sigil belonged to the brother of my buddy,and he got his but kicked pretty badly and he's not playing GW anymore because of this. Lost 60 k, and worse, I lost a friend.

I added the screenshot that proves the scam. Note the irony of the free char carving heheh

noot · Jul 04, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

ouch is all i have to say.

Devts-Waver · Jul 04, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Dude, that's horrible....I've got to try that sometime!

lt.Hudgins · Jul 04, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17

use that screen shot and report it to Guild wars. Good Luck on the situation man.

IceD'Bear · Jul 04, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Always look twice before you trade...
He couldn't change the amonut without you noticing, if he modified his trade you'd have to submit your offer again before you could accept it.

RandomEngy · Jul 04, 2005, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Yeah, be careful. As Ice said, they can't change it "a split second beforehand". He just put in 60 gold and you were not cautious enough to check before you hit "accept". Yes, I know what he did was wrong and all, but hopefully you'll take a lesson away from this.

stumpy · Jul 04, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

if he modifies his trade ... you unfortunately do not have to re-submit it ... if you had pressed submit then all you have to do is hit accept, no matter how many times he re-submits it. But yes, always dopuble check. I had a guy who three times modified his offer then hit accept with nothing in a trade on a sword ... 3 times ... I almost called him out and embarassed his azz in front of the community ... also some people are really dim not to double triple check this stuff ... I mean ... poeple will try to make it the free way ... I hate em ... but they will ... just be careful out there.

Ishamael Sedai · Jul 04, 2005, 10:24 PM // 22:24

similar although not has bad has happened to me with someone switching. you always have to double check right before you hit accept. take your time and don't make any big trade fast. there are scammers out there.

Ishamael Sedai · Jul 04, 2005, 10:26 PM // 22:26

also i wouldn't consider someone a friend if he is going to quite being a friend over 60k in video game gold.

Joerii · Jul 04, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29

You are all right, I should have checked AGAIN. What are the chances, you think, that A-net will refund me that sigil ? I sent an email with that screenshot to [email protected]....

I met that friend in-game, btw. So i guess it wasn't a real friend but a very good gaming buddy nontheless.... will mis him.

dbgtboy · Jul 04, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37

60k isnt that big a deal, at least you learned your lesson to always double check trades. once my friend ided a sup vigor in an armor, and since i >HAD< good luck with salvaging out runes he let me take it to salvage, the piece of junk didnt salvage out, man was i pissed, this was when they were expensive, like at 90k, were still friends though, its only gold in a game, nothing too big.

Sereng Amaranth · Jul 04, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04

salvaging runes from dropped armor is now 100%....but you still have a chance to lose it from your own armor

and yeah, that dude needs to be scammed

Oni No Arashi · Jul 04, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04

My wife had one last night that was trying to buy a sword off of her for 7k. In her window it said 7 gold. The other side kept saying that in her window it said 7 plat, but that her trade window was bugged.

However, it makes no sence. if your trade window is bugged, you'd see 7 gold, the other would see the right amount. Just a new scam to get stuff for almost nothing.

Aniewiel · Jul 04, 2005, 11:05 PM // 23:05

I'd say the screenie is all the proof you're going to need. Send it in and report back on what happens.

But, as IRL: BUYER BEWARE!

Willow · Jul 04, 2005, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Anet is not going to give you back your Sigil. It's not their duty to refund scam victims.

(For all they know, this other guy is your friend, and you're trying to get a free Sigil from them.)

However- if you send that in, they'll take note that this guy is scamming. If they've had complaints before, or if they get more, they will take action against him. But no refund for you.

Aniewiel · Jul 04, 2005, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Yep, no Lemon Law on Arena Net.

chaos dragoon · Jul 04, 2005, 11:18 PM // 23:18

dude that sucks but like willow said ur not gona get the sigil back.ouchie

DarkWasp · Jul 04, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Reminds me of the old Runescape days, there were so many "Trust Games" and offer switches going on, the chances your subject would even get noticed were slim. One day A guy scammed someone with a program, he used a program to quick switch the offer after the change period. He got reported by 3 people atleast but went unnoticed.

So the community in about 4 forums spread a behind the schenes unnoticed plan. Next thing you know serveral forums had a bunch of posts that made him seem like he was a well known scammer from the past. As you would have imagined he had to fill his ignore list pretty fast.

But this one dude was smart enough to have a scammer to scammer conversation. Convinced the first scammer to download a keylogger. The second scammer was a friend of the guy who got scammed but decided not to give the Party Hat back.

However he overlooked the fact that he knew his password, and stole the party hat back. Then the two freinds split, the scammer lost his account, and that doesnt measure up to getting your party hat back.

Its things like that, that just piss me off. Part of the reason I quit that game. But now its happining to this game.

When someone scams, its bound to leave NO-ONE happy.

Bingley Joe · Jul 04, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joerii

A good gaming buddy of mine trusted me well enough to go ahead and sell the Sigil that he bought for only 40 k a few days agao [sic]

[....]

The worst part is, that the sigil belonged to the brother of my buddy,and he got his but kicked pretty badly and he's not playing GW anymore because of this. Lost 60 k, and worse, I lost a friend.

WhaHuh? What was your buddy doing giving you his brother's stuff to sell, and how does that make it his?

Also, what is That Guy's brother doing kicking his ass (besides simply fulfilling the general duties of brother, that is) when he clearly must have allowed your buddy to access his account.. unless he had simply given the sigil to said buddy, in which case, double WTF?

Large parts of this story don't make sense to me..

SisterMercy · Jul 05, 2005, 12:43 AM // 00:43

Is it just me or does the attached screencap in the original post look like a conversation with yourself?

Or did you change a name to protect the innocent (or guilty)?